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Subject: [BPR] - Controversy erupts over release of final Fatima mystery
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:31:52 -0400

SUNDAY JULY 2 2000

Telling secrets on the Vatican
Controversy erupts over release of final Fatima mystery

By Jon E. Dougherty
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A Catholic priest who says he has seen the original text
of the "third secret" of Fatima disputes the official
interpretation of the secret released by the Vatican.

The Catholic Church says the Virgin Mary passed the
secrets of Fatima to three Portuguese children in 1917.
(See explanatory sidebar.) The third secret is the final
one to be released.

For decades, speculation about the third secret has
resulted in a spate of theories that it predicted the end
of modern times -- the world as it is now known -- as well
as other apocalyptic visions of despair. (See excerpts of
the three secrets.)

According to the Vatican's interpretation, however, the
third secret differed substantially from what it was
believed to contain by many in the so-called "mainstream"
community and Church. (See history of the secrets.)

Church traditionalists say it also differs from
information -- much of it leaked over the years -- about
what they know and believe is contained in the secret,
which was finally published more than 40 years after the
Vatican was supposed to release it.

Now that it has finally been published, Catholics in the
traditionalist faction say the version published differs
from the original. Critics include a priest who says he has
seen the original third secret text.

Rev. Dr. Gommar A. De Pauw Rev. Dr. Gommar A. De Pauw,
founder of the Catholic Traditionalist Movement, told
WorldNetDaily earlier this week that while attending the
Second Vatican Ecumenical Council -- held between 1962 and
1965 -- he was shown a copy of the third secret.

Fr. De Pauw, a Belgian-born priest who attended the
Council as an adviser, said that although he had to "let
the Vatican's interpretation sink in," his first impression
of the 27-page document explaining the third secret and
placing it in context of the other two was, "Thanks, but no
thanks."

Missing from the Vatican's explanation, he said, was a
portion of the secret that predicted the fall of the modern
Catholic Church.

"While at the (Second Vatican) Council, I was given the
text -- the supposed text -- of the third secret of
Fatima," Fr. De Pauw said. "Journal reporters --
journalists -- gave it to me" and a few others in
attendance.

"They left it for me in a strange way, really," he said.
"At my desk, in front of me, in the press room." Besides
serving the Vatican in various functions and manners over
the years, Fr. De Pauw said he was also an "accredited
journalist," which, he said, explained his presence in the
press area.

Fr. De Pauw, who couldn't remember the reporter's name,
said, "word got out among the journalists" that a copy of
the text was "floating around."

"Reporters would increasingly ask me, 'Is this real? Is it
genuine?'" he said.

But when he attempted to ask key people in the Vatican
about the text, "they were always reluctant to say anything
-- particularly because, supposedly, the only ones who had
seen it were the pope, John XXIII, and Cardinal [Alfredo]
Ottaviani," who headed the Vatican's Holy Office.

"That text -- which I accepted as authentic -- was totally
different from what they are coming up with now," De Pauw
said. "It's going to take a while before these 27 pages
sink in and it's not clear to me what conclusion I should
reach. To me, it demands, almost, a total rejection of the
whole so-called Fatima devotion. But that's my first
impression."

Nevertheless, Fr. De Pauw said, the main impetus of the
"original" secret he viewed over 35 years ago was a
prediction by the Holy Virgin that there would be, mainly,
"an unbelievable, total doctrinal and moral ... spiritual
.. collapse of the establishment Catholic Church" --
something Vatican officials are "not going to admit," he
said.

"I do not accept [the Vatican's] interpretation," he added.

A spokesman for the U.S. Catholic Conference told
WorldNetDaily that its parent organization, The National
Conference of Catholic Bishops, "accepted fully" the
Vatican's explanation and interpretation of both the third
secret and the two which proceeded it.

The third secret avoids any mention of a collapse of the
Church and, instead, focuses on "penance." While the
translated text offered by the Vatican said that "the Holy
Father" -- the pope -- "was killed by a group of soldiers"
as he and other religious figures within the Church climbed
"up a steep mountain," the interpretation focuses on an
encouraging message.

According to the Vatican's interpretation, "other key
words are 'my Immaculate Heart [Virgin Mary] will triumph,'
and 'the Heart open to God,' purified by contemplation of
God, is stronger than guns and weapons of every kind. The
'fiat' of Mary, the word of her heart, has changed the
history of the world."

Fr. De Pauw admits that his statements "are a little
radical," but, he said, not without merit.

Besides the differences in text, Fr. De Pauw said the
Vatican's summary of all three secrets "also does not make
any reference to the 'Miracle of the Sun,' which took place
Oct. 13, 1917." He said that event -- which was described
by observers as a "dancing sun" -- was "witnessed not
simply by the three children but by thousands of people,
including dozens and dozens of very skeptical journalists.
But no one is making any reference to that."

Fr. De Pauw said, in fact, that Vatican officials had, at
times, actually attempted to downplay the event "as nothing
more than the imagination of three visionary children."

Newspapers of the time, however, did cover the event, he
said.

Other prominent Catholic groups were perplexed by the
Vatican's delays in releasing the text of the third secret.

"We're puzzled as to why we must wait for an official
commentary," said Fr. Paul Kramer, a priest at the Fatima
Center, a Canada-based Catholic organization that promotes
the Message of Fatima. "The first two parts of the secret
are quite clear in what they say and predict. It does not
seem likely that the third part is so obscure that it
requires deciphering by a team of experts."

"Our Lady of Fatima did not speak in riddles," he said in
a statement.

The late Catholic author Fr. Malachi Martin has also
alluded to the secrets in his numerous best-selling books
that were labeled fiction, "but contained 80 percent
truth," according to friend and advisor, Fr. Charles Fiore,
who lives in the Diocese of Madison, Wis., and belongs to
the priestly fraternity of St. Peter.

In an interview last year, Fr. Fiore told WorldNetDaily
that Fr. Martin's last book, which was not yet finished
before he died last July 29 in New York City, was "a
nonfiction piece about Vatican power as the Church
approaches the third millennium."

Regarding that book, "Primacy: How the Institutional Roman
Catholic Church Became a Creature of the New World Order,"
Fr. Fiore said Fr. Martin believed it would be "his most
controversial and important work."

Far from being fiction, Fr. Fiore said, the book was
dealing exclusively "with power and the papacy," and would
have "analyzed the revolutionary shift in the ancient dogma
of primacy that lies at the heart of what many now see as
the first breakdown of papal power in two millennia."

The book would have highlighted Malachi Martin's uncanny
ability to see through and predict the hidden geopolitics
of the Vatican and its "complex global dealings with
governments and nations," Fr. Fiore said.

"The battle that concerns Martin is the fundamental
survival of belief in God -- and the struggle that
supercedes our individual faiths is the one between us and
those who would destroy all faiths," wrote author Alan
Caruba for The Jewish Future -- an observation that keenly
matches Fr. De Pauw's interpretation and, oddly, portions
of the version of the third secret interpreted by the
Vatican, Fr. Fiore observed.

Last month, however, the Vatican pre-empted at least some
speculation about the contents of the final secret by
announcing, finally, its impending release -- an act
ordered by Pope John Paul II, Vatican officials said.

Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Angelo Sodano
announced in Fatima, Portugal, May 13 that the Holy See
intended to release the text of the third secret. The pope
had gone to Fatima to beatify -- or make saints of -- the
two shepherd children who, with Sr. Lucia, received the
three secrets over 85 years ago.

During his statement, which was delivered in Portuguese,
Cardinal Sodano said the third secret contained "a
prophetic vision similar to those found in Sacred
Scripture, which do not describe with photographic clarity
the details of future events, but rather synthesize and
condense against a unified background events spread out
over time in a succession and a duration which are not
specified.

"As a result," he added, "the text must be interpreted in
a symbolic key."

Offering a glimpse of what the secret contained, Cardinal
Sodano said, "The vision of Fatima concerns above all the
war waged by atheist systems against the Church and
Christians and it describes the immense suffering endured
by the witnesses to the faith in the last century of the
second millennium.

"It is an interminable Way of the Cross led by the popes
of the twentieth century," he added, with no mention of any
text that symbolically or otherwise described the version
Fr. De Pauw has claimed to see.

John Paul credits the Virgin Mary with saving his life
after an assassination attempt May 13, 1981 in St. Peter's
Square by a Turkish nationalist -- 64 years to the day
after the Holy Mother first appeared to the three
Portuguese children. And, the Vatican says, he believes
because of her divine intervention, the vision of a pope
being killed by gunfire in the third secret was thwarted.

John Paul wrote shortly after the attempt on his life that
it was "a motherly hand which guided the bullet's path,"
enabling the "dying Pope" to halt "at the threshold of
death."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000702_xnjdo_telling_se.shtml

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Subject: [BPR] - The Rosetta Disk
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:35:33 -0400

Posted at 8:06 p.m. PDT Saturday, July 1, 2000

Preserving our history for future

                   BY DAN GILLMOR
                   Mercury News Technology Columnist

THE Rosetta Disk is three inches in diameter and made of pure nickel. It's
designed to last 10,000 years and to preserve a piece of humanity.

On it, micro-etched to a fineness that requires a microscope to read, are the
first three chapters of the biblical book of Genesis -- in 1,000 languages --
plus other material that might be of use to scholars thousands of years
hence. The disk, a prototype of which is being unveiled this weekend, is part
of a project taking a long-range view of the world.

The Rosetta Disk's public unveiling is part of the ``10,000-year Library''
symposium at Stanford University. This small but significant gathering of
leading thinkers has been pulled together to ask some essential questions
about the preservation of our knowledge and cultures.

These questions matter because we are doing a terrible job of it today -- and
from all signs, the situation is getting worse, not better, in the digital age.

That may seem counter-intuitive, given the growing scope of the Web and
digital media, and the ease of copying and storing information. Actually,
says Michael Keller, ``the likelihood is that even more will be lost now than in
the past.''

Keller, university librarian and director of Academic Information Resources at
Stanford University's Green Library, is co-organizer of the weekend meeting.
He's been working for years on this growing predicament.

Anyone who has made the transitions from early personal computers, with
their 5 1/4-inch floppy disks and data created with now-abandoned programs,
knows about the problem. Some of the information I created and stored back
in the 1980s would be difficult, if not impossible, to retrieve at this point.

My old digital junk isn't important. Consider the loss, however, of some of
NASA's earliest pictures of Earth -- no longer viewable, Keller says, because
we've lost the operating system and documentation of the data formats.

Or ponder the dilemma facing the 1people who are in charge of the world's
nuclear waste, generated by weapons, medical gear and power plants. Some
of the waste will be dangerous long, long into the future. One of the people
scheduled to participate in the Stanford conference heads the ``Office of
Long-Term Stewardship'' at the U.S. Department of Energy. How will we alert
the people in the distant future not to dig in certain places?

Experts are working on a variety of ways to preserve such information in
ways that are useful to our distant descendants. As digital media become
ubiquitous, this is getting much harder, given how quickly generations of
digital media pop up and go away every few years. Figuring this out means
rethinking the very nature of archives, of libraries, with a view toward the
extremely long term, at least in the human context.

Enter the Rosetta Disk, a project under the auspices of the San Francisco-
based Long Now Foundation (www.longnow.org). Jim Mason, trained as an
anthropologist, is heading the project.

``We're attempting to create a modern Rosetta Stone,'' he says, referring to
the multi-lingual slab that was the key to deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphics.
When complete, the disk will be ``a long-term linguistic archive that's a
meaningful survey of 1,000 world languages as well as a functional
translation engine that gives the tools to decipher potentially dead languages
in the deep future.''

Besides the Genesis chapters, the prototype disk being unveiled this
weekend includes descriptions of all 1,000 languages, such as where they
originated and how they relate to other languages. When the disk is finished,
it will also contain other information, including charts, linguistic family trees
and other data that should be valuable to future scholars.

The most important aspect of the disk is the way the data is being stored.
It's analog, not digital -- ultimately, some 27,000 finely etched pages of
recognizable text and diagrams. Why? So you don't have to depend on
digital system upgrades and transitions down the road.

It's simple enough to put the information into digital form, if you have the right
kind of microscope, scanning technology and optical character recognition
software. Just read the data and redigitize it, says Mason, who hopes to put
hundreds of thousands of these disks into all sorts of hands in coming years.
 

Pure nickel, from which the disk is made, oxidizes slowly, giving it a 2,000-
to 10,000- year ``life expectancy'' even in a setting that's exposed to air,
pollution and variable heat and humidity. For further protection, the disk will
be enclosed in a special kind of stainless steel. With enough of these
around, some are bound to survive longer, Mason expects.

The Rosetta Disk isn't the only method under consideration to keep the
people of the future informed. The Web and database technologies offer
some possibilities -- systems that automatically replicate and update
themselves as new kinds of storage and data structures are put in place.
Break a link in the chain, though, and we've lost the information.

Another possible approach is called emulation. Basically, this is software
running on modern computers that literally re-creates the older machines,
operating systems and programs, allowing old data to be understood and
updated.

The nuclear waste warnings of the future raise an additional problem, notes
Stewart Brand, president of the Long Now Foundation and co-organizer of the
weekend conference. Not only must the data be preserved, but we'll probably
need a ``separate alerting device that wakes up from time to time and
reminds people that, oh, by the way, there's (toxic) waste in that salt
cavern.''

This is important work. Unfortunately, it's barely a blip on the radar for a
group of people who should be paying closer attention -- the technologists
creating these new kinds of digital tools and toys with such speed and style.
But the tech elite has, for the most part, ignored the question of digital
preservation.

``Silicon Valley hasn't stepped up to this,'' says Brand, an author who
founded the Whole Earth Catalog, among his many other pursuits.
``Because, as they say, there is no business case for archives.''

http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/columns/gillmor/docs/dg070200.htm

via: transhumantech@egroups.com

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Subject: [BPR] - July 3, 2000 TV Programs
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:57:27 -0400

8:00 PM Eastern

 CNBC - THE GREAT GAME: THE STORY OF WALL STREET - Wall
          Street grows from an economic backwater into the world's
          greatest financial powerhouse.(CC)

 DISC - THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT: IT STANDS FOR ALL - A
          history of the monument includes restoration
          efforts.(CC)(TVG)

10:00

HIST - BATTLESHIPS - The history and evolution of the
          battleship.(CC)(TVG)

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Subject: [BPR] - Pope to Consecrate New Millennium to Mary
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:59:52 -0400

Pope to Consecrate New Millennium to Mary

Pope John Paul II will conduct an act of dedicating the new millennium to
Mary, the Vatican has announced. According to The Immaculate Heart
Messenger, a major Catholic magazine, the consecration will take place on
October 7th, 2000, on the occasion of the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary.

The Pontiff has ordered that the “miraculous statue” of Mary which rests
on the spot of the apparitions of Mary at Fatima, Portugal, be transported
to Rome to be set up inside St. Peter´s Basilica. There the Pope will lead
a night-time torchlight procession, then kneel and pray before the statue
of Mary.

A number of Catholic officials are convinced that the Pope will also use
the occasion to formally declare as dogma the widely held Catholic belief
that Mary is Co-redeemer of Mankind. They note that when Pope John Paul II
first took office, he pledged, “Totus Tuus Maria” (“I am totally yours,
Mary.”)

http://www.texemarrs.com/ponemil.htm

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Subject: [BPR] - 4th of July
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:55:28 -0500

{THIS POST JUST CAME THROUGH, I CAN'T ATTEST
TO THE HISTORICAL ACCURACY, BUT IT IS A GOOD READ...}

Subject: More to the 4th of July than just Fireworks

More to the 4th of July

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before
they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons
captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary
War.
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred
honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were
farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they
signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty
would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships
swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to
pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his
family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his
family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty
was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton,
Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr, noted that the British General
Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly
urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and
Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his
wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13
children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to
waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home
to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died
from exhaustion and a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and
sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed,
rebel-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.

They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight,
and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with
firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge
to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never
told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't
fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought
our own government!

Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So,
take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently
thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!

I hope you will show your support by helping to get the word out that
patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than
fireworks, beer, picnics and baseball.

"Adversity makes the weakest of us warriors." Anon

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Subject: [BPR] - Real World News Items - 07/02/00
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Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:12:16 -0500

Selected items from:

REAL WORLD NEWS - Weekend Edition - 07/02/2000

Visit Real World News online at http://www.realworldnews.net

PROPOSED FRENCH LAW CALLS BAPTISTS 'DANGEROUS SECT'
Europe's crackdown on what French lawmakers have deemed "dangerous
sects" -- including Southern Baptists -- has captured the attention of
Congress now that France's National Assembly is considering a law to
imprison "proselytizers" for up to two years. The bill aims to
restrict
the growth of 173 blacklisted faiths, including Jehovah's Witnesses,
Scientologists and Unificationists. Also among the targeted groups is
the Southern Baptist Convention, one of the largest denominations in
the
United States and the church affiliation of both President Bill
Clinton
and Vice President Al Gore.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_fosterj_news/20000702_xnfoj_prose
ly
tiz.shtml

U.S. GAYS TIE HISTORIC KNOT IN MIDNIGHT 'MARRIAGE'
In the first few minutes of Saturday the small New England town of
Brattleboro made U.S. history when it issued the nation's first
same-sex civil union license. Kathleen Peterson, 41, and Carolyn
Conrad, 29, wore big smiles as town clerk Annette Cappy presented
them the sheet of paper that gives their five-year relationship
legal recognition and virtually all the benefits and
responsibilities of marriage.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000701/ts/life_gays_dc_2.html

ARAFAT - PALESTINIAN STATEHOOD 'IRREVERSIBLE'
Senior Palestinian officials have confirmed that the PLO leadership is
determined to declare an independent state this year. PLO leader
Yasser
Arafat told the organisation's central council that the peace process
with Israel was in crisis and the Palestinians were sure to go ahead
and
proclaim statehood. "The proclamation of the Palestinian state is
irreversible," Mr Arafat said, according Nabil Amr, a cabinet minister
in the self-rule Palestinian authority.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_816000/81629
5.
stm

ISRAEL FEARS A JEWISH CIVIL WAR
The burning of a synagogue in Jerusalem, apparently perpetrated by
militant ultra-Orthodox Jews, has sent shockwaves through Israel's
secular majority - prompting talk of a "War of the Jews". Nobody
was hurt in last week's arson raid on Kehilat Ya'ar Ramot
synagogue, which belongs to the "Conservative" stream of Judaism.
But the incident has evoked images of Holocaust-era attacks and led to
fears that Jewish fundamentalists are increasingly mimicking the
violent
behaviour more common among their counterparts in the Islamic world.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000163167039689&rtmo=a2pR3pJL&atmo=99
99
9999&pg=/et/00/7/2/wisr02.html

WORLD GAY PRIDE ATTRACTS HUGE CROWDS IN EUROPE
World Gay Pride 2000 celebrations began in Madrid Saturday as some
50,000 people paraded through the city streets in sweltering summer
heat
and under the gaze of curious onlookers. Crowds of gays, lesbians,
bisexuals, transexuals and drag queens dressed in sadomasochistic
leather outfits and a variety of other costumes gathered under the
banner of "equality now" in a country where homosexuality was illegal
until in 1978. In London, British police estimated that 57,000 people
gathered in a park for the second annual gay 'mardi gras' which
followed
the Pride March and Parade through the city.
http://sg.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=singa
po
re/headlines/000702/world/afp/World_Gay_Pride_2000_attracts_huge_crowd
s_
in_European_capitals.html

FLASH FLOODS CAUSE CHAOS IN ENGLAND
Flash floods have hit parts of northern England as half the month's
usual rain fell in just six hours. Torrential rain fell in parts of
the
region, as fire and lifeboat services led rescue operations and pumped
water away from affected businesses and homes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_816000/816121.stm

WHITE FARMERS FEAR THE WORST
Squatters have shattered the brief respite after Zimbabwe's
election by occupying at least 30 more white farms since polling
day, raising fears of a new wave of invasions this week. President
Robert Mugabe listed 804 farms for "compulsory acquisition" last
month.
The deadline for appeals against seizure expires today and ministers
have promised that resettlement will begin "immediately". Farmers fear
that properties on the list will be flooded with thousands of invaders
this week.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001136033854542&rtmo=VPxPG51x&atmo=kk
kk
kkku&pg=/et/00/7/3/wzim03.html

INDIANA COUNTY PUTS TEN COMMANDMENTS ON DISPLAY
Shrugging off the threat of lawsuits, Orange County officials
became the first in the state to take advantage of a new Indiana
law that allows government entities to post the Ten Commandments.
Renditions of ``God Bless America'' and scripture readings echoed from
the steps of the county courthouse Saturday as nearly 300 people who
began gathering just before midnight watched officials unveil a plaque
with the religious tenets the moment the new law went into effect.
http://chblue.com/Article.asp?ID=409

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Subject: [BPR] - Discussion: Is cloud seeding the answer?
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Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:18:17 -0500

IS CLOUD SEEDING THE ANSWER

From: WXMANKFRI
"Cloud seeding will increase rainfall rate but as discovered in the
past
you can get some undesirable effects when you mess with nature. One
thing when you seed is that you don't know where the increased
rainfall
rate will fall. Also some of the more successful seedings can be
dangerous to the personal doing the seeding. I know that one person
has
died doing this type of work. Also floods can be caused by releasing
too
much rain over a certain area. Lots of other problems also that must
be
acknowledged before any of the seeding can take place..."

http://www.delphi.com/ab-weather/messages?msg=97.11

----------Continuing Post----------

From: TUSCALOOSA
"But Evvia, the government tried several projects involving seeding
that
either did not work, had horrible effects, or results that were
inconclusive. Just ask the residents of Savannah, Ga. during the
1940s,
when a hurricane was seeded that caused it to come ashore there. And
the
1960s government Project STORMFURY had inconclusive results at best.
(They did, however, successfully weaken Hurricane Debbie in 1969.)
Plus
if seeding were done, it would need to be sufficient to create
beneficial rains, not disastrous flooding."

http://www.delphi.com/ab-weather/messages?msg=97.13

via:

W E A T H E R N E W S L E T T E R
-------------------------------------------------
Michael Cyger's About.com Weather Site
Newsletter #24 / July 2, 2000
http://weather.about.com

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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:18:40 -0400

SOLDIERS ESCAPE AMBUSH
A detachment of IDF soldiers was attacked early this morning near the
Israel-Egypt border in Gaza. No injuries were reported. At approximately
3:15 AM, a roadside bomb was detonated within meters of an IDF convoy at
the border, near Rafah. Simultaneous with the explosion, Palestinian
terrorists opened fire on the soldiers from within the PA autonomous area
in Gaza. Arutz-7 correspondent Haggai Huberman reports that the army -
which later combed the area for the attackers - considers the episode a
premeditated ambush by PA terrorists.

PA FORCES TEAR DOWN SECURITY FENCE
In the northern Gaza Strip community of Elei Sinai, PA forces today tore
down the newly-erected security fence surrounding the township's industrial
park. Gaza area commander Brig.-Gen.Ya'ir Naveh dispatched IDF forces to
the area and said that the fence will be rebuilt even at the expense of a
clash with the Palestinians. Arutz-7's Haggai Huberman reports that
yesterday, while the fence was being erected, some 30 PA paramilitary
policemen attempted to forcefully disrupt the work.

"There is a strong feeling in the IDF Southern Command that the
Palestinians are working hard at heating up the atmosphere in Gaza of
late," reports Huberman. "The PA press has recently published many
incitement-ridden articles aimed specifically at the Gaza Jewish
communities. The violence on the Neve Dekalim beach last Wednesday, and
the explosion-ambush early this morning on the Israel-Egypt border are
signs of this new trend."

GOV'T-YESHA DIALOGUE BEGINS
The official "dialogue" between government ministers and residents of Jewish
townships in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (Yesha) formally began today, with
the arrival of Communications Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer at the Binyamin
community of Psagot. Journalists were permitted to attend the discussion,
but were forbidden to take photographs or tape the meeting. When it first
learned of the Barak initiative to have his ministers visit Yesha communities,
the Yesha Council instructed community leaders not to participate. The
Council today released a statement disassociating itself with today's
meeting.

Arutz-7 has learned that in the course of the dialogue, Psagot residents
asked Minister Ben-Eliezer why the Barak government is leaning towards the
abandonment of nearly 50,000 Israelis to foreign rule. He responded, "We
have no better alternative for striking a peace deal with the Palestinians."

BARAK ATTENDS ABU DIS DELIBERATION
The Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee deliberated today on the
government's decision to hand over Abu Dis and other Jerusalem-area
villages to the Palestinian Authority. In accordance with a Knesset
decision last month, Prime Minister Barak attended the meeting. As he was
leaving the session, Barak was confronted by reporters, who questioned him
on a variety of issues. Regarding Abu Dis, Barak said that it and other
villages would be transferred to the PA "at the appropriate time." Barak
denied reports that he plans to annex Yesha settlement blocs should the
Palestinians unilaterally declare a state. He also blamed the crisis
surrounding the sale of surveillance aircraft to China on the Netanyahu
government, which originally signed the deal.

RABBINATE SLAMS WAQF, PROHIBITS JEWISH VISITS
A special meeting of the Israeli Chief Rabbinate convened today to discuss
the worsening situation on the Temple Mount. The rabbis did not satisfy
the expectations of MK Rabbi Benny Elon, who last week called on the
Rabbinate to encourage Jews to ascend to the areas of the Temple Mount
permitted to visit according to Jewish law. Instead, the rabbinate today
reiterated its previous stance that it is forbidden to ascend to any
section of the Mount. The rabbis also issued a call to Moslem Waqf
officials to halt their illegal construction activities there.

LEBANESE STICKS AND STONES
Arab rock-throwing at IDF soldiers and farmers continues at Israel's
northern border with Lebanon. A senior army officer stationed in the
region told Itim reporter Shlomo Hadad that the situation deteriorates
daily, and "the time has come for it to end." Yesterday, hundreds of
Lebanese villagers gathered at the Fatma Gate and hurled blocks and rocks
at IDF forces. No injuries were reported. In light of the situation, the
army has temporarily prevented hikers and tourists from entering various
areas adjacent to the border. A spokesman for IDF Northern Command told
reporters that the "off-limit" areas will be reopened once the new security
fence there is complete.

Arutz Sheva News Service
 <www.IsraelNationalNews.com>
Monday, July 3, 2000 / Sivan 30, 5760

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Selected Items from:

REAL WORLD NEWS 07/03/2000

Visit Real World News online at http://www.realworldnews.net

NEW WAVE OF HIV HAUNTS GAY CAPITAL
The long-feared new wave of HIV infection has arrived in San
Francisco, the city that first alerted the world to the epidemic 20
years ago. News that the city now has the same infection levels as
sub-Saharan Africa has sparked fears across America and Europe that
years of safe-sex education are being undermined by complacency. It
is
the first reported rise in infection rate in any US city since the HIV
epidemic started being brought under control.
http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-3389
96
,00.html

SUPPORT FOR FIRST AMENDMENT WANING
As Americans prepare for the 224th anniversary of the signing of
the Declaration of Independence, a newly released poll finds that
support for the First Amendment protections on free speech, a free
press, the right to assembly, and religious freedom are all in a
state of flux. The report, The State of the First Amendment 2000,
published by the First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University,
finds that Americans are in favor of limitations on speech, while
advocacy for free exercise of religion in the public square is on
the rise.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_poole_news/20000703_xnpol_support
_f
i.shtml

U.N.: SPREAD WEALTH OF NEW ECONOMIES
Delegates and ministers from around the world said this morning it
was imperative that the developing and developed nations improve
cooperation and coordination to ensure the riches of the new global
economy were spread throughout all regions. Addressing the United
Nations General Assembly special session on social development,
speakers
maintained that globalization had mainly benefited the richest
industrialized countries while less-developed nations suffered through
increased poverty, diminished education and poor health care.
http://www.newsmax.com/moneynews/archives/articles/?a=2000/7/3/55640

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT TAKES SHAPE
A U.N. Preparatory Commission Friday adopted two key elements of
the International Criminal Court, its proposed "Rules of Procedure
and Evidence" and "Elements of Crime," and the United States and
its opponents both said they had won battles. Washington claimed to
have
kept its argument over the court's jurisdiction alive for the sixth
preparatory commission meeting in November with a foot-in-the-door
measure. Human Rights Watch warned the new provision may encourage the
United States to press even more intensely at the upcoming war crimes
session. http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/7/1/82733

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THE MIDDLE EAST
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PALESTINIANS MAY DELAY DECLARATION OF STATEHOOD
As a leadership council debated the timing of a declaration of
independence, Palestinian officials on Monday signaled their
willingness to hold off on statehood for a few more months - but no
longer than the end of the year. Council members discussing a
declaration had two options, said Palestinian Planning Minister Nabil
Shaath: They could either vote to proclaim a state Sept. 13, the
deadline for a peace treaty with Israel, or they could opt for
statehood
sometime this year without setting a date. In either case, Shaath
said,
"the Palestinian state will be declared this year."
http://www.nandotimes.com/global/story/0,1024,500223834-500320968-5018
08
677-0,00.html

REPORT: PUTIN WANTS TO RESTORE SOVIET NATIONAL ANTHEM
President Vladimir Putin would like to see the old Soviet national
anthem sung again in place of the one approved for post-communist
Russia by Boris Yeltsin, a newspaper reported Monday. The Moscow
daily Sevodnya said Putin preferred the sound of the stirring music
written during World War II by the composer Alexander Alexandrov. The
words, written by Sergei Mikhalkov, father of the moviemaker Nikita
Mikhalkov, celebrate "the unshakeable union of free republics." of the
former Soviet Union. http://www.russiatoday.com/news.php3?id=174708

10,000 CHILDREN FLOCK TO DIANA MEMORIAL
Families braved queues of almost an hour over the weekend as
thousands of children dragged their parents to the Diana, Princess
of Wales, Playground in London. The memorial, where a pirate ship,
wigwams and paddling area are proving irrest-ible, has already
attracted
an estimated 10,000 people since its opening on Friday.
http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/03/timnwsnws01020.ht
ml

SOUTHERN PARTY READY TO BREAK UP U.S.
It's not so much that Steven Rogers wants to see the United States
break up. He just wants to return to an older, more limited form of
government - and if a few states get left behind, well, so much the
better. "I'd love to take all 50 states with us, to get our
constitution
back," says Mr. Rogers, a store owner from Clover, S.C. "But the
Northeast and some other places, a lot of people think they are beyond
saving." Mr. Rogers and a handful of other Southerners - patriots,
they
regard themselves - have concluded that they are best off being
entirely
separate from the rest of the nation. They gathered over the weekend
in
this suburb of Charleston to write a platform for a new party,
dedicated
to the proposition that the South should rise again.
http://washtimes.com/national/default-20007322027.htm

SCIENTISTS SEEK MORE EFFECTIVE TEACHING OF EVOLUTION
In the 140 years since it was first proposed by naturalist Charles
Darwin, scientists have made enormous progress building upon the
theory of evolution. But some are particularly puzzled by one
unsolved mystery: Why do so many people continue to have their
doubts? A Gallup Poll conducted last year found that 47 percent of
Americans believe God created human beings, while 49 percent
accepted the theory of evolution - that mankind developed over
millions of years from more primitive species. "I think all that
shows is that most Americans are woefully badly educated in
science, which is our fault, not theirs," said Harvard
paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould.
http://www.nandotimes.com/healthscience/story/0,1080,500223827-5003209
58
-501808616-0,00.html

CHISTIAN 'RACIST SECT' DIGS IN AT ROCK FESTIVALS
A Christian fundamentalist religious movement which describes Jews
as "murderers" is using rock festivals, including Glastonbury and
Reading, to recruit young people. Twelve Tribes, whose 24-hour
cafe, The Common Ground, was a popular meeting point at this year's
Glastonbury festival, handed out literature blaming Jewish people for
the death of Jesus. One article says: "Murder is the very crime which
the Jews are still cursed for." It goes on to speak of the Jews'
"responsibility for the Messiah's crucifixion".
http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,339142,00.html

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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:34:31 -0400

Spurred by Israeli delegation, several congressmen draft letter to
Clinton

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Andra Brack
                         Source: Arutz-7

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- A delegation of four determined Knesset members spent
a week in Congress for intensive meetings with Senators and
Representatives on key Congressional Committees. It became apparent that
the congressmen were ready to sign a letter to President Clinton,
reminding him of the critically important nature of the unresolved
issues between Arafat and Israel and that the timetable should not be
determined by the fact that Clinton´s term of office was coming to an
end. For that purpose, a letter was drafted which was shown to all the
Congressmen and Senators with whom the delegation met:

Dear President Clinton, We are writing to you concerning the possible
upcoming summit meeting on the Middle East, with you and Prime Minister
Barak and Chairman Arafat. We strongly believe that no “peace” agreement
between Israel and the Arabs is possible while two critically important
issues remain unresolved. The future of Jerusalem as Israel´s capital
city must be guaranteed in any peace agreement. The “right of return” of
millions of Arab “refugees” must be relinquished. Anything less would
only be a cease fire, which the US should not endorse or underwrite. In
addition, we believe that there should be no US pressure on Israel to
agree to territorial concessions in Judea, Samaria, and the Golan which
would have irreversible repercussions. Such concessions would prevent
Israel from defending itself in the event of war.

We ask you to take into account the demand for tens of billions of US
dollars to guarantee implementation of territorial changes, the
relocation of Israelis left homeless with the land giveaways, and the
long term nature of these dramatic changes. We urge you not to make any
commitment for the US Congress before details of the agreement and their
financial aspects, and US obligations, are discussed with the Congress.
All this must take place prior to any final signing."

There was also general agreement on the part of the Congress on the
issue of the need for Syria to leave Lebanon was summed up in a draft of
a Resolution to be circulated among the Members for signatures.

UN's Annan calls for greater use of maritime court

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Kelly Pagatpatan
                         Source: Reuters

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan urged the
international community on Monday to make more frequent use of the
International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to resolve maritime
disputes. Speaking at the opening of its new 123 million mark ($60
million) building in Hamburg, Annan said decisions reached by the court
-- backed as a binding arbiter of disputes by more than 100 countries --
were widely recognised and adopted. Although the court's 21-member panel
of judges have ruled on only five cases since its inauguration in
Hamburg in 1996, Annan said he hoped these landmark decisions would lead
more states to resolve thorny disputes on the exploitation of the seas,
which often center on fishing rights and ownership of raw materials.


Fabius sees euro as magnet for EU avant garde

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Kelly Pagatpatan
                         Source: Reuters

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- French Finance Minister Laurent Fabius said in an
interview published on Monday that the euro currency group could provide
a platform for those in the wider European Union who wanted to integrate
faster than others. Fabius told Le Monde in an interview which marked
the start of France's six-month run as president of the 15-nation EU
that the EU could degenerate into a ''Tower of Babel'' if it failed to
take more decisions by majority vote, rather than unanimity. ''In my
view, the group of countries (who move ahead faster) could be formed
around those which use the euro,'' Fabius said, referring to the
grouping of 11 euro zone states within the EU, which will also include
Greece from the end of this year.Fabius, who will chair both the club of
euro zone finance ministers and the Ecofin group -- which also includes
non-euro members Britain, Sweden and Denmark as well as Greece for now
-- reiterated his ambition of reinforcing the euro 11 group. This, he
said, would be a priority over the six months of the French presidency
of the EU, which began on Saturday. ''If we want to assert our ability
to manage the common currency, we have to reinforce coordination of
economic policies in Europe -- all economic policies, budget policies,
fiscal policies or, as they say, structural policies,'' he said. He also
said this would involve making more coherent communication by the euro
zone grouping to financial markets and to the wider public, which will
start using the euro when their own national currencies are taken out of
circulation in 2002.Austria obliged its partners to radically tone down
the plan for greater informations exchange between tax authorities at a
summit in Portugal last month, forcing them to accept that nothing would
be done unless non-EU countries such as the United States and
Switzerland did likewise. ''With the unanimity rule applying at the
level of the 15 (EU) countries, it was not possible to do otherwise,''
Fabius said. He said he nevertheless saw the compromise hammered out in
Portugal as an endorsement of the idea that banking secrecy -- which is
sacrosanct in Austria and Luxembourg -- would have to be abandoned in
the EU ''at one stage.''

Blair warned of manufacturing meltdown over euro

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Kelly Pagatpatan
                         Source: Reuters

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- Tony Blair was warned on Monday in a leaked memo by a
senior government official that the manufacturing sector faced meltdown
unless he declared that euro membership was inevitable. French Foreign
Minister Hubert Vedrine put further pressure on Blair by signalling that
France would use its new European Union presidency to press for a
strengthening of the role of euro member states in the bloc. France,
which took up the EU presidency last Saturday, would push for the
development of an innovative and competitive European economy, Vedrine
wrote in Britain's Times newspaper. "Achievement of these objectives
requires, among other things, strengthening the role of the Euro 12 and
giving it a higher profile," he said in a reference to the bloc's euro
  members. The current 11 are soon to be joined by Greece.

French leaders meet European Commission chiefs on EU

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Kelly Pagatpatan
                         Source: Reuters

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- European Commission chief Romano Prodi met President
Jacques Chirac and the French government on Monday amid controversy over
Chirac's European Union "vision" and the future of the Commission, the
EU's executive body. Prodi and other top officials from the
Brussels-based Commission came to Paris for talks with Chirac, Prime
Minister Lionel Jospin and the Socialist-led cabinet on France's plans
for the next six months as chairman of the 15-nation EU bloc. Chirac,
Jospin and Prodi were to hold a news conference at around 1315 GMT after
separate tete-a-tetes for Prodi with each of the French leaders, who
will endeavour to "talk with one voice" on EU matters despite their
different political allegiances. Prodi responded warmly to a speech that
was bigger on grand ideas than specifics, but he also said he wanted to
know what Chirac had in mind when he spoke of a "secretariat" for the
avant-garde in Europe. The word has been read by some as a suggestion
which could undermine the Commission's role as the body which proposes
EU laws and ideas, and a shift in prerogative towards more direct inter-
governmental negotiation on the future of Europe.

Egyptian ministerial meeting for discussing Arab - European partnership

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Andra Brack
                         Source: Arabic News

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- Egyptian Prime Minister Atef Ebeid is convening two
ministerial meetings tomorrow with the specialized committee with the
Arab - European partnership and the economic ministerial group. Resuming
discussions of the Egyptian formula to enter the European partnership
framework will be discussed in the first meeting to be raised under the
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. The meeting of the economic group will
discuss reports on economic performances, the plan draft, the budget of
the new year, the economic policies concerning enhancing the role of the
private sector, attracting more investment and increasing future
                  economic stability.

Water cuts in Israel take effect this week – farmers hit first

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Andra Brack
                         Source: IsraelWire

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- When water officials meet on Monday, it is expected
that drastic water regulations will be placed into effect to preserve
our dwindling water supply. It is expected that water allocated to
farmers will be cut as much as 5-10 percent. Farmers insist the planned
water cuts will destroy their crops as well as the livelihood of many
persons. In addition, it will be prohibited for one to wash one´s car
with a hose or water one´s private lawn during the day. Violators will be fined.

Northern Israeli communities taken off priority assistance list

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Andra Brack
                         Source: IsraelWire

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- Northern residents express outrage after learning they
have been removed from the government´s list of communities slated to
receive priority assistance programs. Residents of communities no longer
classified as “border settlements” blocked tens of roads in an act of protest.

Arab truck driver apprehended carrying IAF plane parts

                         Weekend News Today
                         By Andra Brack
                         Source: IsraelWire

Mon Jul 3,2000 -- Plane parts from an Israel Air Force “Kfir” phantom
were discovered in an Arab truck during a routine inspection in Gaza on
Wednesday. The truck was on its way to the Karnei Crossing when it was
stopped for a routine inspection. The occupants of the truck explained
they were taking the remains of the fighter aircraft to a scrap yard in
the hope of selling it for a profit.

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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:52:36 -0400

        RUSSIAN PRESIDENT´S EX-KGB
        FRIENDS HANDED REIGNS TO RUN
                         THE NATION
                                    July 3, 2000

     The London Telegraph reported: “A shadowy body staffed by
     military and police chiefs that advises President Putin on security
     is to be given powers to run Russia under new state of emergency
     legislation. A Bill given preliminary approval by parliament says
     that in a state of emergency, the day-to-day running of the country
     will pass to the Security Council, an unelected cabinet dominated
     by Mr. Putin's old KGB allies. The council groups together army,
     police, foreign and domestic intelligence chiefs as well as seven
     recently appointed governor generals endowed with vast powers to
     run Russia's regions. Five of the governors have military or
     intelligence backgrounds. The legislation adds to the impression
     that power is being concentrated in the hands of a tight-knit group
     of intelligence veterans, colleagues of Mr. Putin from the security
     service in Leningrad, and raises the prospect of Russia being run
     by a junta. It also comes amid a flurry of legislation to rein in
     Russia's regions and centralize power in the Kremlin. Mr. Putin has
     said he needs a strong state to push through economic reforms. The
     ex-spies are said to be gaining the upper hand in an intense battle
     for influence over the president which pits them against the group
     of Yeltsin´s advisors known as The Family. It is The Family,
     nominally headed by the tycoon and Kremlin insider Boris
     Berezovsky, which is credited with plucking Mr. Putin from
     obscurity to become Mr. Yeltsin's successor, and with engineering
     his rise to power...”

     IRAQI MISSILE PROGRAM RESTARTED
                                    July 3, 2000

     7am News reported: “Iraq has resumed its domestic ballistic
     missile program, testing short-range missiles eight times since
     May, 1999 with the last test on Tuesday, the New York Times
     reported on Saturday. The missile, Al Samoud, is a liquid-fueled
     ballistic missile that could carry conventional explosives or the
     chemical and biological weapons that Iraq is still suspected of
     hiding, according to Clinton administration and military officials
     quoted by the newspaper. ‘We´re starting to see things up and
     functioning,´ Gen. Anthony C. Zinni, the commander of American
     forces in the Persian Gulf region, said in an interview Monday. The
     tests follow nearly eight months after U.S. and British warplanes
     badly damaged Iraq´s missile production infrastructure in a series
     of air raids that were ordered because Iraqi President Saddam
     Hussein stopped cooperating with international weapons inspe.ctors.
     Iraq had agreed to cease producing those weapons as a condition for
     the United States and its allies ending the Persian Gulf war in
     1991. However, the damage reported then appears not to have been as
     severe as first thought, the Times said. The newspaper said
     officials told reporters that Iraq´s new missile does not have the
     legs to threaten its neighbors or reach U.S. troops in the region.
     However, experts and military officials said Baghdad could apply
     the technology to newer, longer-range missiles in the future..."

     NEW BIRTH CONTROL PILL BEING
       DEVELOPED WHICH WILL ALSO HALT
                        MENOPAUSE
                                    July 3, 2000

     The London Times reported: “Scientists are developing a
     contraceptive pill that could delay the menopause, it was
     announced yesterday. It would involve using a non-hormonal
     chemical to block all activity in the ovaries and thus prevent
     pregnancy, but with the useful side-effect of stopping the natural
     ageing process of a woman's reproductive organs. A woman who took
     such a contraceptive throughout her thirties could stop taking it
     and attempt childbearing as effectively as if she were still in her
     twenties. The pill is being developed by scientists at Organon, a
     big contraceptive manufacturer based in The Netherlands...”

http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi

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